meme: "I'm horny, I'm half naked, and I'm saying yes..."

[waltzmatildah]

Because I am so devoid of other things to do of a more pressing nature... huh, yeah... not really. Because it's COOOOL!

I stole this from clockwork_jo. She is also cool.

GREY'S ANATOMY
1. The first character I fell in love with: Izzie Stevens. She was kick ass back in the old days...

2. The character I never expected to love as much as I do now: Lexie Grey.

3. The character everyone else loves that I don't: Mark Sloan. Okay, so except for these scenes... he's kinda entertaining here...

4. The character I love that everyone else hates: Izzie again, maybe? I think there is a fair amount of Izzie hate out there, and most of the other characters I like, so does everyone else...

5. The character I used to love but don't any longer: Miranda Bailey. I do still love her sometimes, but only when she's being kick ass. Not when she's being all weepy and pathetic. I have enough of that in real life... gah.

6. The character I would shag anytime: Male? Alex Karev. JUST NAME THE TIME AND PLACE. clockwork_jo, I couldn't have said it any better myself! Female? Izzie Stevens.

7. The character I'd want to be like: Um, Callie, Lexie, Izzie, Addison, Rebecca, Olivia, random middle aged lady patient, Michelle from paeds... see the pattern here?!!!

8. The character I'd slap: Mark Sloan. Over and over and over again. And then I'd slap Owen and Teddy for good measure.

9. A pairing that I love: Present tense? Alex/Lexie. Past tense? Alex/Izzie.

10. A pairing that I despise: Past tense? Mark/Lexie. Present tense? Owen/Cristina.

11. Favorite character: Alex.

12. My five favorite characters: Alex. Lexie. Cristina. George. Izzie.

13. My five least favorite characters: Teddy. Owen. Mark. Derek. Arizona.

14. Which character I am most like?: Meredith. Scarily.

15. My deep, dark fandom secret: I was convinced I was going to hate the show when I first started watching (which was some random point in season two). I think it took me about three and a half seconds to completely and utterly change my mind.

WOOOOWWWW. I spent WAAAAY too much time on this...!

Comments

[miss-blanche.livejournal.com]

I am also Meredith. I complain a lot and my hair is always messy.

I didn't know you didn't like Mark to that extent, what don't you like about him? (Just as an interest thing, not as a HDU??? thing, lol.) And... a couple of months ago I wouldn't have said this but I agree with you whole heartedly about Arizona. Lately I just don't like her. Looking back I think it was always there but I was blinded by her roller skates, cute children and inspirational speeches. All that aside, I'm not too impressed tbh.

[waltzmatildah.livejournal.com]

I am also Meredith. I complain a lot and my hair is always messy.
Not to mention all the inappropriate! Men, substance use, workplace activities!!! Haha...

As for Mark, nope. Not a fan. I find ED's acting to be 99% of the problem most of the time though. He's SOOOO one dimensional it's almost cringe worthy most of the time...

I don't mind when he's being used for comedic value and the odd one liner every now and then... just, whole storylines that require a little more acting diversity than simply a lewd comment or two? Yeah. No thanks!

Also, the way he's been written throughout the whole Lexie stupidity has been painful. He's all "I wanna be a man and have a family and grow up and blah blah blah" but as soon as Lexie is grown up enough to say to him "look, you didn't actually consult me on any of this, I'm not happy about it and I'm not ready for it" (Which is actually really mature and adult in itself) he cracks out weeks of silent treatment? Really? He hasn't 'grown up' at all. Not one iota.

And don't even get me started on the hypocrisy! I'll still be here in the morning...!

The other stuff I have to say related to tonight's episode so I'll wait til you've seen it before I expand on that...

Arizona? Yup. At first I was like, yeah, you're not too bad. Now. Enough of the epic speeches and the drama. Over. It. Also, the way she treated Alex after finding out about him and Callie? Dumb.

[miss-blanche.livejournal.com]

I don't know if I'm quite as inappropriate as Meredith, lol. She downs tequila shots - I'm not nearly that hardcore. I get tipsy on one glass of soco and lemonade. Very tragic.

I don't entirely agree on the whole Lexie thing but I doubt I could make a convincing argument in the tired state I'm in. Plus I feel compelled to bow in your presence and just marvel at how amazing you are for finding me a working Grey's link :) YOU'RE AMAZING. Seriously, when you need someone to kidnap Alex for you and go to jail for it, I'm your girl. That episode was so worth it...

Totally keen for expansion on your thoughts though - expand away. I'm considering making a post about my thoughts (suspect you'll hate me for most of them - don't cut me from your flist, please! lol)

Urgh yes I agree. That was one of my least favourite moments of her. I hated her this ep too. She reminds me of April actually - they're too... perky. Or something (it's 1:@0am... go with it, lol.)

[waltzmatildah.livejournal.com]

Okay, latest episode related expansion of thoughts...

Does Mark listen to Lexie AT ALL??? Does he give a rats what SHE actually wants??? Or is he completely tied up in his own needs? She didn't want to even entertain the thought of marriage and getting a place together back when he was actually being NICE to her, why the hell would she want to now that he's proved his manwhore ways and acted like a spoilt child towards her for the last however many months...?

I understand that Lexie may still be in love with him *shudder*, because those are not easy feelings to move on from, but if the writers suddenly have her all 'Oh yes, I want a husband...' I, for one, will not buy it.

But I really wanna hear your counter arguement...!

[mammothluv.livejournal.com]

I was convinced I was going to hate the show when I first started watching
Me too! I resisted watching it for so long because I thought it looked ridiculous and then when I finally started I marathoned seasons 1-3 in less than 2 weeks.

I shall never understand the Izzie hate. Never.

[waltzmatildah.livejournal.com]

I shall never understand the Izzie hate. Never. Me either! And I KNEW when I wrote that, that I would have your Izzie love n support!!

Thank you for not disappointing me!

[citron-presse.livejournal.com]

The character everyone else loves that I don't: Mark Sloan.

*gasps* And we're friends?!!!! ;D

Repeating miss_blanche's question - what don't you like about him? - because I'm intrigued.

(But actually, I don't think you're alone. I see evidence online that more than a few people don't like him. Obviously, I don't understand it, lol, but . . . )

[waltzmatildah.livejournal.com]

*gasps* And we're friends?!!!! ;D

Ummm... well, I just replied to miss_blanche, I really hope we are still friends after you've read it! Haha...

Also, there was stuff from this episode that made me think, Mark, you have no clue you self involved ass... tonight's ending just about sounded the death blow for any residual Mark love I may have been harbouring!

Now... tell me why you like him! I am open to any and all counter argument!

[citron-presse.livejournal.com]

is he completely tied up in his own needs?

So, I finally came to reply to this and you gave me a wonderful "in" with the continued expansion of your thoughts.

YES. He is. Completely tied up in his own needs. Because, I think, (I've always thought - from the whole way he conducts himself) because he's "self-loathing and self-destructive" and has such painfully low self-esteem about anything other than screwing and wielding a scalpel that sometimes it hurts to watch him.

And, unfortunately, all of that (and the ways he tries to defend himself against feeling any of it) totally make him an ass - narcissistic, arrogant, obtuse.

(And, yes, in case there's any doubt, I am in the process of telling you why I *like* him, lol!)

So you have the ass-ness, and the vulnerability and self-loathing and wishing someone would love him in unconditional ways that are probably impossible once you get past childhood (because he missed it when it was supposed to be there).

And then, in the cracks of all of that, you have what I think is probably his real personality. He's non-judgmental; he's capable of real love; he's honest, calls others on their bullshit (if not himself); the exact opposite of obtuse; as a doctor (and sometimes as a friend) he shows enormous amounts of kindness, patience, empathy and strength.

And when you mix it all together, in an unholy complex mess of contradiction, you have (in my opinion) the most awesome character on TV.

Should Lexie go back to him? Hell no! That he could stand in front of her and be that straightforward about his feelings was, to me, a huge deal for him. But it's still all about him; and the husband line absolutely showed that.

And, yes, they've written him (for the most part) pretty badly since the beginning of Season 4, imo; and ED has acted him badly enough (for the most part, again since Season 4) to deserve the criticism people level at him. ETA (because I realize I failed to write it outside my head the first time) Occasionally, though, the writing and ED's acting coincide to really shine (e.g. the scene in 5.09 with the little girl).

But ep 2.18 and Season 3 Mark was AWESOME. And there's enough of that still there that I can piece it together in my head (and fic, lol!) and remain firmly in love with him.

Oh, yeah - I also like the ass-ish part of him that makes inappropriate remarks. There's something very endearingly auto-centric about it to me . . .

Done :D

[waltzmatildah.livejournal.com]

Haha! Every time I read something that you wrote a little voice inside my head was going "Yes, but... Yes, but... ".

I completely understand how you can still hang on to previous incarnations of a character to partly justify your current love levels. I experience that with Izzie in spades (and Bailey and Cristina to a lesser extent - I think both have lost a considerable portion of their awesomeness lately - sadly.)

Thank you for indulging me a little character discussion... I do so love it when it's well thought out and rational. Much more enjoyable to discuss opinions with people who actually have proper ones (as opposed to "OMG he's so hot and that is all that matters and I refuse to listen to anything you have to say..." and so on and so forth!).

[citron-presse.livejournal.com]

"OMG he's so hot and that is all that matters and I refuse to listen to anything you have to say..."

LOL! Although, actually, that might be more convincing than my defense, in some ways ;)

[addikat.livejournal.com]

I kind of get your feelings about Mark actually. His treatment of Lexie messed up my opinion to some degree.

Agree with your comments about Miranda.

Totally with you on #10.

And yes, #14 is kinda scary :)

I also like Alex and Lexie together - based on the little I've seen. I've missed a heap of Grey's and Private Practice while I was in hospital.

Oh, you can count me as one of the Izzie haters (and George for that matter). However, I did really like her pre-Denny in S1 and S2.

[waltzmatildah.livejournal.com]

I am in denial about your Izzie and George hate!

And yeah, Mark's treatment of Lexie has been a massive factor in my dislike.

Alex and Lexie are made of fluffy win, which I usually hate but I just... don't!!!

[ovariesofsteel.livejournal.com]

*gasp!* Mer is not amongst your five faves? That's just unacceptable! And I hate Lexie.
And Miranda rocks!

But ♥ Alex makes those differences ok.

[waltzmatildah.livejournal.com]

Alex is all that ever matters...!